Waiting for the Sun (cube)
“This is getting ridiculous” said Rapunzel as she poured some curdled milk over her biodynamic organic muesli. “I’d have to agree with you” said Keef as he sniffed at the bag of prawns he had just taken from the cupboard. “We need to get that SunCube on the roof right away so that we can get the fridge running. I’m going to get right on to it and find out why it is taking so long”.
Keef went over and switched on his computer.
“BEEP” went the solar powered inverter
“BOLLOCKS!” said Keef.
“The sodding battery is flat again”, and he went outside (in the rain) and started up his horrid noisy petrol powered generator.
After a short delay while the battery recovered from its torpor Keef fired up his computer and logged onto the SunBall forum.
THE SUNBALL FORUM
Keef noticed that Mr. Watson had created a web page for followers of the SunBall and SunCube to join in which they could share their enthusiasm and keep up with the latest developments.
Green and Gold Energy’s mission is to sell SunCube generated solar kWhs to a carbon constrained world.
Checkout http://www.greenandgoldenergy.com.au for more information.
Greg Watson writes:
I started this discussion group to form a discussion extension to the main GGE web site.
Here you can fire away with questions to me on the SunBall, our testing and our marketing program as well as getting involved with group discussion. While I do respect the right of others to hold different opinions I will not tolerate insults, no matter how under the cuff they may be. If something gets a little too close to stuff that is a trade secret I may not answer but basically I play an open and straight hand and encourage a good understand of the basic functional principals behind the SunBall.
All the best to us all as we change the way the world generates electricity.
Keef Wivanef writes:
I sent you an email (Register interest to order) on 8th March and again on 12th March. At your suggestion I then followed up with emails to Solar Hydrogen Research (your NSW licensee) who told me that they have pulled the plug. Can you please advise when the SunCubes will actually be on sale. Since you have 3,700 others in the queue, perhaps my business is not that important to you. You appear to have an excellent product, I hope you will provide excellent customer service to match.
But answer came there none!
Pounding away with two fingers Keef fired off a rather tetchy missive for the attention of the group members and (hopefully) Mr. Watson.
Keef Wivanef writes:
I have ticked the box to order a SunCube and I have also emailed you several times.
You have been claiming that the SunCube will be available real soon ever since I can remember and She Who Must Be Obeyed thinks that I am an idiot for waiting this long.
A simple question for you Greg HOW LONG NOW?
“ Solar power to the people”
Herald Sun May 15, 2007 12:00AM
PLANS for a private $30 million, 15-megawatt solar farm in one of South Australia’s most arid regions are likely to be signed off today. The public will be allowed to invest in the solar farm in a similar way that investors buy units in forestry companies. Chief executive of Green and Gold Energy, Greg Watson, will today meet state electricity officials to put the finishing regulatory touches to a project set to save thousands of domestic users more than 50 per cent off their power bill without having to install expensive solar panels on their roofs. “I’m confident there won’t be any issues,” he said.
Mr. Watson, inventor of the award-winning Solar Cube technology, told Business Daily yesterday the 200,000 square metre facility was likely to be located at either Leigh Creek or Woomera, near the old rocket range, or Roxby Downs, near the Olympic Dam uranium mine. “They are the furthermost areas that the existing power grid extends to," Mr. Watson said.
The site, which will be leased from either the state or federal government, does not need to be cleared for the farm. "The land is already so arid, that we do not need to grade, scrape or bituminise it," Mr. Watson said. He said the project had not received any government funding and at this point was not expecting any subsidies like those provided to coal-burning companies that generate electricity. Mr. Watson said he was using his own capital which was generated from license fees he collects from overseas distributors of SunCubes. The company plans to erect 50,000 SunCubes initially and will sell a quarter to the public.
The offer, which is open to individuals only and not to commercial groups, will allow customers to buy up to four $1,500 SunCubes each. "We will have measures in place to stop some rich guy on a hill coming along and snapping up all the 12,500 that we are selling," he said. The solar farm could be complete and hooked up to the grid by the end of the year. Mr. Watson said he planned to add units to the farm in stages and had the manufacturing capacity to create a solar energy facility producing up to 500MW of base-load electricity. Mr. Watson expects to receive licenses within a fortnight to set up two power companies - GGE Generation and GGE Retail.
GGE Generation will build the solar farm and infrastructure to link it to the power grid and sell the electricity to GGE Retail, which in turn will sell the electricity on to the wholesale market. GGE Retail customers will benefit by having their bills’ total kilowatt hours use reduced in line with the size of their SolarCube investment. GGE will own all the carbon offset credits the farm produces and its customers will be able to boast that their electricity was entirely produced from a carbon free resource.
WTF? Said Keef
“I’ve been waiting patiently in the queue along with four thousand others and now Watson announces he’ll be sending all the cubes to the middle of the desert”. Keef started to lose his gruntle.
(fires up generator, logs on to the SunBall Forum)
Keef Wivanef writes:
What in the world is going on Greg? I’ve just read in the paper that there will be massive SunCube solar farms built in the outback. What about us off-gridders who have placed orders and been waiting patiently for years for first the SunBall (which seems to have vanished) and then the SunCube. What about your existing customers Greg don’t we deserve to be served first?
Don Nairn writes:
For those who live off grid this is a lifestyle decision that Greg had nothing to do with. Personally I’m much happier to buy a share in the solar farms than to have one of those SunCubes on my roof.
Greg Watson writes:
Due to shortages of 3J cells availability we are concentrating our efforts on solar farms. To tell you the truth our first 100 MWs or so of SunCubes will be installed in solar farms with high security fencing and 24 / 7 security guards. So even then there will be no units available for public viewing. Do you realize what a solar technology that can generate kWhs at fossil fuel prices is worth (Trillions of $$) and how many will do anything to steal the IP. Not one 3J CPV manufacturer sells units to the public. Guess why? Well maybe one (Practical Instruments) but what they have is nothing special and their $ / kWh are still well above fossil wholesale. So my refusal to go public is just solid business practice designed to protect GGE IP against those who have sworn to steal it and put GGE out of business. Soon you will be able to buy SunCubes in our solar farms well before you can get them on your roof. BTW once our solar farms are up and running we will lobby governments worldwide to discontinue their rebate and feed-in tariff programs as they are they a waste of tax payer money. Sure this will destroy the flat panel industry but they have lived on tax payer handouts for far too long.
Ron Warnick writes:
Right now, by your own admission from just a few weeks ago, you have 3,700 people standing ready to buy your SunCubes for their homes. If you’re truly that concerned about 3J cell availability, stop all new enrollments for retail and give SunCubes only to those who have already signed up. That way you can satisfy the customers who jumped on board early, yet still concentrate a huge percentage of your business to solar farms. This is only fair, especially to those who have been waiting around for 18 months or more for your product. Those 3,700 clients around the world won’t bankrupt the grid.
Again, give people a choice. You’ve been awfully cagey, Greg, and as a journalist, I’m detecting
that you’re not telling us the entire story. This about-face is very bizarre and abrupt.
The SunBall Forum was flooded with similar complaints from would be customers who felt that they had been badly treated. Keef tried to post again on the forum but found that he had been blocked by the owner.
This made him mad as hell, and he quickly thought up a catchy new username to circumvent the restriction on his right to free speech
Keef had by now not only had he lost his gruntle, but he was in danger of losing his hinges as well.
Right he said, I’ll tell Watson what I think about his SunCubes in the desert idea, and he started pounding on the keyboard once more.
“ Cop this Watson” he muttered.
News Flash …Woomera South Australia
16th April 2007
*Residents of the sleepy outback town of Woomera were awakened this morning by the sound of huge numbers of low flying pigs. Car windscreens were splattered with green manure and mounds of steaming dung was piled metres deep over a vast area. Residents have raised concerns that this event is connected with the building of the new Sunpube Solar farm in the area. Inventor Greg Watson denies this claiming that the farm emits no pollution whatsoever and will supply the energy needs of the entire planet from an area of less than 1 square kilometer. Said Mr. Watson, "my Sunpube technology derives its energy not only from the sun, but also from starlight and the magnetohydribblity overunity generation effect. **
There are no adverse effects on the environment and huge numbers of local jobs have been created. Local glaziers in particular have enjoyed a boom due to the frequent need for replacement of thousands of glass lenses. Local youths have also benefited from the entertainment opportunities available at the solar park. It has become a popular gathering place for them to enjoy wholesome outdoor pursuits including target practice and rock concerts. In fact it has become so popular that each Saturday night hundreds of utes converge on the farm each carrying a plentiful supply of rocks.
Mr. Watson has been gratified by the public response to his generous share offering which has allowed thousands of mum and dad investors to grab a slice of this lucrative enterprise. Whilst strongly denying any connection with the mysterious airborne porcine phenomenon, Mr. Watson has nonetheless offered to supply residents with a free supply of greenwash to at least cover up the problems.
Reporter Keef Wotsisname
*Keef had discovered that before the SunBall came along Watson had been involved with “free energy & magnet motor” voodoo science schemes which were claimed to run on the magnetocaloric-Casmire effect (yeah right!)
Mr. Watson was not too thrilled about this post and quickly responded.
Greg Watson wrote:
Re: [Sunball] News Flash …Woomera South Australia
We have initiated legal proceeding against one person who tried to sign a license agreement, obtained and disclosed confidential information, broke the signed NDA, went behind our backs to try to buy cells, is trying to clone the SunCube and have emailed me claiming they will take away the SCIG licenses (I have the emails you sent them). You will shortly receive the summonds from our legal council.
Let me make myself very clear Dogshitontoast, you can not hide behind a cheap email alias. We are initiating a search which will identify who you are. GGE will not stand for this kind of insulting, defamatory and derogatory comments clearly meant to discredit myself, GGE and the SunCube. All of your posts in this forum have been referred to our legal council for their action.
Additionally I find your handle is an insult to others in this forum.
Green and Gold Energy
Re: News Flash …Woomera South Australia
My BALLS are bigger than your balls Greg And that’s MR Dogchaten-Toust if
you don’t mind.
At this point Mr. Watson locked down the SunBall Forum removing access to the archived posts and introducing strict censorship to prevent posters saying any more rude things.
Never mind, there’s more than one way to boink a pig!