New thread, Keef's complaints WITH photographs


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Complaint Number: 10935372
Vehicle Identification Number: 5YJSA1H16EFP33185
Your Vehicle’s Make Model and Model Year: TESLA MODEL S 2014
Note: Your VIN, make, model, and year are all protected under the Privacy Act.
What part of your car was affected? Suspension
What happened?
Here is a Model S in the junkyard. https://www.copart.com/lot/38489036/?resultIndex=14&totalRecords=19&backTo=%2FlotSearchResults%2F%3Ffree%3Dtrue&query=tesla&query=tesla&displayStr=Search%20Results&viewedLot=38489036 The front LH wheel has been torn off but the wheel and tire are shredded. This is similar to the many other cases where the suspension has failed and caused a crash. It is almost impossible that the wheel and tire would have rotated enough times after a crash to have caused such damage. The suspension components are much too fragile for a car of this weight and power. Please investigate. Note that date of crash and milage are only approximations. Biohazard sticker suggests that persons were injured. Further information should be available from crash reports.
Files you uploaded.
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When did this happen? 12/01/2016
Was there a Crash? Yes
Was there a Police Report? No
Were Vehicles Towed? No
Was there a Fire? No
Was there an injury or fatality? Yes
Number of fatalities:
Number of injuries 1
Medical Attention Required? Yes
How fast were you going? (in mph) 40
About how many miles were on your vehicle at the time of the incident? 10000


#42

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Complaint Number: 10936007
Vehicle Identification Number: 5YJSA1E28GF132781
Your Vehicle’s Make Model and Model Year: TESLA MODEL S 2016
Note: Your VIN, make, model, and year are all protected under the Privacy Act.
What part of your car was affected? Suspension
What happened?
Here is another Tesla in the junkyard. https://www.copart.com/lot/33597246/Photos?resultIndex=10&totalRecords=23&backTo=%2FlotSearchResults%2F%3Ffree%3Dtrue&query=tesla&query=tesla&displayStr=Search%20Results&viewedLot=33597246 Photographs show that the front supension has fallen apart and the wheel and tire have been destroyed whilst the car was still in motion. There is no collision damage that would explain the failure. There have been over 100 similar failures. No other car on the road has such a high rate of suspension failures and wheels torn off. Owners have reported suspension failures even under gentle driving conditions. In an emergency situation when the owner brakes and swerves the suspension is extremely likely to snap off. The suspension compnents are too weak and have not been tested under conditions similar to what can occur on the highway or at an interesection when emergency braking is applied. Please investigate this.
Files you uploaded.
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When did this happen? 12/01/2016
Was there a Crash? Yes


#43

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Complaint Number: 10936291
Vehicle Identification Number: unknown
Your Vehicle’s Make Model and Model Year: TESLA MODEL S 2016
Note: Your VIN, make, model, and year are all protected under the Privacy Act.
What part of your car was affected? Suspension
What happened?
This is another complaint about the Tesla suspension weakness. Here are 3 more examples of back wheels that have skewed over without having been in any collision. There is a discussion thread on the Norwegian forum elbilforum.no Google - Skrevet av Emne: Brukket bakaksel Quote: Today broke the rear axle! Pour into the incident that it happened on the highway to the airport but just down the street when I was on my way home. Jade me back. But - broken axle, then? And although P85 + is a rocket I’m actually a moderate middle-aged-plus driver who has covered akselrasjinsbehov. Wonder if there are others who have experienced broken axle speed? Have tried to find something on the theme of the forum but did not follow up something. Is there an exhausted topic so sorry I post… I have attached 4 photos of cars with broken axles that were posted on the Norwegian forum. This is a highly dangerous situation but no warning has been issued to owners and the forum posters are abusing any owners that dare to post complaints. Please take immediate action.
Files you uploaded.
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When did this happen? 12/12/2016
Was there a Crash? No
Was there a Fire? No
Was there an injury or fatality? No
How fast were you going? (in mph) 30


#44

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Complaint Number: 10936350
Vehicle Identification Number: 5YJSA1CP5DFP25637
Your Vehicle’s Make Model and Model Year: TESLA MODEL S 2013
Note: Your VIN, make, model, and year are all protected under the Privacy Act.
What part of your car was affected? Suspension
What happened?
Here is another Tesla in the junkyard https://m.iaai.com/VehicleDetEnc.aspx?AuctionID=0&ItemID=23837634&RowID=30&PageSource=VehicleResults It has been in a major front end collision. Almost certainly cause by the back wheel falling off! Please investigate this. Every Tesla on the road is in danger of having a wheel snap-off at any instant. Please note that injury report is just an estimate based on the severity of damage. Date of crash is an approximation.
Files you uploaded.
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When did this happen? 12/01/2016
Was there a Crash? Yes
Was there a Police Report? Yes
Were Vehicles Towed? Yes
Was there a Fire? No
Was there an injury or fatality? Yes
Number of fatalities:
Number of injuries 2
Medical Attention Required? Yes
How fast were you going? (in mph) 60


#45

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Complaint Number: 10937789
Vehicle Identification Number: 5YJSA1CP6DFP11603
Your Vehicle’s Make Model and Model Year: TESLA MODEL S 2013
Note: Your VIN, make, model, and year are all protected under the Privacy Act.
What part of your car was affected? Suspension
What happened?
Here is a Tesla in the salvage yard. https://m.iaai.com/VehicleDetEnc.aspx?AuctionID=0&ItemID=23880040&RowID=38&PageSource=VehicleResults The front wheel is leaning outwards at an extreme angle. The tip of the steering knuckle has snapped off. The wheel and tire are undamaged and it is unlikely that the front of the car has had a hard enough impact that would account for the snapped knuckle. This cast aluminum knuckle has snapped in a similar way in many other incidents that have been reported to NHTSA. Later model Teslas have a redesigned knuckle that is more sturdy but even that one has had incidents in which the tip has broken off or the ball joint has popped apart. The cast aluminum parts of the suspension appear to be too weak to cope with the forces that may be applied during hard braking and cornering. Please note that I am not the owner of the vehicle but that I am a concerned citizen trying to protect the lives of Tesla owners and those who share the roads with them.
Files you uploaded.
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When did this happen? 11/01/2016
Was there a Crash? No
Was there a Fire? No
Was there an injury or fatality? No
How fast were you going? (in mph) 40


#46

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Complaint Number: 10937794
Vehicle Identification Number: 5YJSA1E24GF126606
Your Vehicle’s Make Model and Model Year: TESLA MODEL S 2016
Note: Your VIN, make, model, and year are all protected under the Privacy Act.
What part of your car was affected? Suspension
What happened?
Here is a Tesla in the salvage yard. https://m.iaai.com/VehicleDetEnc.aspx?AuctionID=0&ItemID=23919966&RowID=7&PageSource=VehicleResults# The front LH wheel is skewed inwards and over at an angle whilst the RH wheel is pointing straight forward. This indicates a broken steering or suspension component. There is no damage to the wheel and tire and no evidence of an impact hard enough to have broken the suspension. There have been many other cases where Tesla suspensions have snapped. Please investigate. Please note: I am not the owner, merely a concerned citizen. Date reported is an estimation. Exact date of incident is unknown to me.
Files you uploaded.
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When did this happen? 11/01/2016
Was there a Crash? No
Was there a Fire? No
Was there an injury or fatality? No
How fast were you going? (in mph) 30
About how many miles were on your vehicle at the time of the incident? 7000


#47

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Complaint Number: 10937796
Vehicle Identification Number: 5YJSA1E23GF152601
Your Vehicle’s Make Model and Model Year: TESLA MODEL S 2016
Note: Your VIN, make, model, and year are all protected under the Privacy Act.
What part of your car was affected? Suspension
What happened?
Here is a Tesla in the junkyard. https://www.copart.com/lot/35774366/Photos?resultIndex=8&totalRecords=20&backTo=%2FlotSearchResults%2F%3Ffree%3Dtrue&query=tesla&query=tesla&displayStr=Search%20Results&viewedLot=35774366 It has been in a serious crash. The car shows the signs of collapsed suspension that has caused all wheels to be jammed up in the wheel wells. The front RH wheel assembly has snapped off completely and the wheel/tire damage suggest that the collapse occured whilst the car was still driving forward prior to impact. Please investigate this and also the many similar incidents. Please note that I am not the owner just a concerned citizen. Date is an approximation. Injuries reported are an estimation based on the severity of the crash.
Files you uploaded.
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When did this happen? 12/01/2016
Was there a Crash? Yes
Was there a Police Report? No
Were Vehicles Towed? Yes
Was there a Fire? No
Was there an injury or fatality? Yes
Number of fatalities:
Number of injuries 2


#48

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Complaint Number: 10937974
Vehicle Identification Number: 5YJSA1CP3DFP06245
Your Vehicle’s Make Model and Model Year: TESLA MODEL S 2013
Note: Your VIN, make, model, and year are all protected under the Privacy Act.
What part of your car was affected? Air Bags, Suspension
What happened?
Here is a Tesla in the junkyard. https://www.copart.com/lot/44749556/Photos?resultIndex=12&totalRecords=21&backTo=%2FlotSearchResults%2F%3Ffree%3Dtrue&query=tesla&query=tesla&displayStr=Search%20Results&viewedLot=44749556 The suspension has collapsed on all 4 wheels and the wheels are jammed up in the wheel wells which has caused damage to the bodywork and presumably a very rapid deceleration of the car. There is no impact damage. There hav been many reports of similar incidents and reports that the car lacks any form of limit stops if should there be a leak in the air suspension system. The passenger side air bag has deployed but not the drivers side. It is reasonable to assume that there was a driver in the car at the time since this car predates the autopilot system! Please note that I am not the owner and that this report is based entirely on my observations and analysis of the photographs of the damaged car. Date of incident is an approximation.
Files you uploaded.
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When did this happen? 11/01/2016
Was there a Crash? No
Was there a Fire? No
Was there an injury or fatality? No
How fast were you going? (in mph) 50
About how many miles were on your vehicle at the time of the incident? 20000


#49

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Complaint Number: 10938616
Vehicle Identification Number: 5YJSA1CP5DFP25637
Your Vehicle’s Make Model and Model Year: TESLA MODEL S 2013
Note: Your VIN, make, model, and year are all protected under the Privacy Act.
What part of your car was affected? Suspension
What happened?
Here is a tesla in the junkyard. https://m.iaai.com/VehicleDetEnc.aspx?AuctionID=0&ItemID=23837634&RowID=31&PageSource=VehicleResults The back RH wheel assembly has torn off and exited through the rear of the car tearing off the back bumper. The car has then had a major collision. It is most unlikely that it is a mere coincidence the back wheel has fallen off. The alloy suspension components are much too fragile and have failed many times on these vehicles. Please investigate. Note: I am not the owner of the vehicle just a concerned citizen. Date of accident and injury details are an approximation
Files you uploaded.
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When did this happen? 12/01/2016
Was there a Crash? Yes
Was there a Police Report? Yes
Were Vehicles Towed? Yes
Was there a Fire? No
Was there an injury or fatality? Yes
Number of fatalities:
Number of injuries 2
Medical Attention Required? Yes
How fast were you going? (in mph) 50
About how many miles were on your vehicle at the time of the incident? 20000


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https://www.copart.com/lot/19207737

Have a look at this shocker!


#51

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January 25, 2017 NHTSA ID NUMBER: 10947481
Components: SUSPENSION
NHTSA ID Number: 10947481

Incident Date January 1, 2017

Consumer Location BEVERLEY HILLS, CA

Vehicle Identification Number 5YJSA1H21EF****

Summary of Complaint

CRASHNo

FIRENo

INJURIES0

DEATHS0
HERE IS A TESLA IN THE SALVAGE YARD.

IT HAS NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN A COLLISION.

THE SUSPENSION HAS COLLAPSED ON ALL FOUR CORNERS AND THE FRONT RH SUSPENSION BALL JOINT HAS POPPED OUT CAUSING THE WHEEL TO SLEW SIDEWAYS AND PEEL OFF THE TIRE AND DAMAGE THE WHEEL RIM.

THE IS THE MOST CLEAR CUT EVIDENCE YET FOUND THAT SHOWS THE TESLAS HAVE DEFECTIVE SUSPENSION.

PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW THIS DEFECT TO BE COVERED UP BUT LAUNCH A FULL INVESTIGATION.

PLEASE NOTE, I AM NOT THE OWNER, JUST REPORTING IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST.

DATE OF INCIDENT IS AN APPROXIMATION.


#52

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Complaint Number: 10947889
Vehicle Identification Number: 5YJXCAE23GF003282
Your Vehicle’s Make Model and Model Year: TESLA MODEL X 2016
Note: Your VIN, make, model, and year are all protected under the Privacy Act.
What part of your car was affected? Suspension
What happened?
Here is a near new Model X in the junkyard. https://www.copart.com/lot/43745346/Photos The entire back suspension has been ripped off and this is the result of bad design and construction and not an accident. I am astounded that the owner did not file a complaint. You have more than enough evidence to conclude that Tesla suspensions are dangerous. The traction control on Teslas works by applying the brakes on the wheel that is losing grip on the road surface. Under hard acceleration enormous torque can be applied to the suspension. It is clearly not strong enough for the job. Please issue a recall. (Date of incident is an approximation)
Files you uploaded.
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When did this happen? 01/01/2017
Was there a Crash? No
Was there a Fire? No
Was there an injury or fatality? No
How fast were you going? (in mph) 30
About how many miles were on your vehicle at the time of the incident? 500


#53

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https://www.copart.com/lot/19512447/Photos

Print page for your Records PRINT
Complaint Number: 10948343
Vehicle Identification Number: 5YJSA1DP2DFP12696
Your Vehicle’s Make Model and Model Year: TESLA MODEL S 2013
Note: Your VIN, make, model, and year are all protected under the Privacy Act.
What part of your car was affected? Steering, Suspension
What happened?
Here is a Tesla in the junkyard. https://www.copart.com/lot/19512447/Photos The air suspension has collapsed and all the wheels have gone whompy. I think this might make driving difficult.
Files you uploaded.
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When did this happen? 01/01/2017
Was there a Crash? No
Was there a Fire? No
Was there an injury or fatality? No
How fast were you going? (in mph) 40
About how many miles were on your vehicle at the time of the incident? 20000


#54

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Complaint Number: 10948601
Vehicle Identification Number: 5YJSA1H1XEFP32766
Your Vehicle’s Make Model and Model Year: TESLA MODEL S 2014
Note: Your VIN, make, model, and year are all protected under the Privacy Act.
What part of your car was affected? Steering, Suspension
What happened?
Here is another Tesla in the Junkyard. https://m.iaai.com/VehicleDetEnc.aspx?AuctionID=0&ItemID=24154272&RowID=37&PageSource=VehicleResults The suspension has collapsed on all four wheels. The front RH tire is gouged and completely peeled off the rim. It is near impossiblr for this to have occurred post collision. There have been so many similar incidents that it points to a design/construction weakness. Please start an urgent investigation. These cars are large heavy and high powered and present a danger to all road users. Please note that I am not the owner, the date of incident and other details are based on my analysis of the photographs. You have the opportunity to inspect the car and investigate the circumstances of the crash.
Files you uploaded.
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When did this happen? 01/01/2017
Was there a Crash? Yes
Was there a Police Report? Yes
Were Vehicles Towed? Yes
Was there a Fire? No
Was there an injury or fatality? No
How fast were you going? (in mph) 40
About how many miles were on your vehicle at the time of the incident? 20000


#55

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Complaint Number: 10949668
Vehicle Identification Number: Unknown
Your Vehicle’s Make Model and Model Year: TESLA MODEL X 2016
Note: Your VIN, make, model, and year are all protected under the Privacy Act.
What part of your car was affected? Suspension
What happened?
Here is a discussion thread in which the owner of a brand new Model X has suspension damaged and a wheel gone whompy after a trivial brush with a metal pole inside his garage. https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/model-x-suspension-arm-broke-with-a-5-mile-impact-is-that-normal.85242/ The wheel and tire are undamaged and there is scarcely a mark on the car. The photographs attached show that the Alloy arm has stretched and snapped. If this can happen in such a minor mishap inside the garage then imagine how dangerous it would be on the highway. Note that the owner has not reported this to NHTSA and that the forum members are accusing the owner of malicious intent to harm the reputation of Tesla.
Files you uploaded.
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When did this happen? 01/25/2017
Was there a Crash? No
Was there a Fire? No
Was there an injury or fatality? No
How fast were you going? (in mph) 5
About how many miles were on your vehicle at the time of the incident? 200


#56

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Complaint Number: 10949889
Vehicle Identification Number: 5YJSA1H28FF089828
Your Vehicle’s Make Model and Model Year: TESLA MODEL S 2015
Note: Your VIN, make, model, and year are all protected under the Privacy Act.
What part of your car was affected? Suspension
What happened?
Here is a Tesla in the junkyard. https://www.copart.com/lot/22155996/Photos The back suspension has completely ripped off. It looks highly unlikely that this failure was caused by a collision and it seems far more likely that this the long is yet another case of these suspensions failing under the strain of acceleration or braking due to to alloy components being too weak for the job. Had this happened at high speed multiple fatalities could have occurred. Please investigate. (I am not the owner, date of crash and circumstances are estimates based upon the photographs.)
Files you uploaded.
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When did this happen? 01/01/2017
Was there a Crash? No
Was there a Fire? No
Was there an injury or fatality? No
How fast were you going? (in mph) 30
About how many miles were on your vehicle at the time of the incident? 10000


#57

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Date Complaint Filed: 02/07/2017Date of Incident: 01/04/2017Component(s): SUSPENSIONNHTSA ID Number: 10950192Consumer Location: Unknown
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Crash:No Fire:No Number of Injuries:0 Number of Deaths:0
Manufacturer: Tesla Motors, Inc.
Vehicle Identification No. (VIN): 5YJSA1CN3DF…
SUMMARY:
HERE IS ANOTHER TESLA IN THE JUNKYARD. HTTPS://WWW.IAAI.COM/VEHICLE?ITEMID=23585793&ROWNUMBER=52&LOADRECENT=TRUE THE FRONT RH SUSPENSION HAS COLLAPSED AND THE WHEEL IS SKEWED SIDEWAYS. THERE IS NO IMPACT DAMAGE TO THE WHEEL OR TO THE FRONT OF THE CAR THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKELY TO HAVE CAUSED THE DAMAGE TO THE SUSPENSION. SIMILAR FAILURES ARE OCCURRING AT AN ALARMING RATE. PLEASE INVESTIGATE BEFORE MORE LIVES ARE LOST.


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Complaint Number: 10950402
Vehicle Identification Number: unknown
Your Vehicle’s Make Model and Model Year: TESLA MODEL S 2016
Note: Your VIN, make, model, and year are all protected under the Privacy Act.
What part of your car was affected? Speed Control, Suspension
What happened?
Update to the Indianapolis crash that killed two people. This report claims that both occupants were intoxicated. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-driver-double-fatal-crash-intoxicated-indianapolis-police/ However, this other report suggests that tests on badly burned victims may be unreliable. http://killingkillers.blogspot.com.au/p/blood-alcohol-content-ffect.html Not withstanding these reports the photographs published here http://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2017/02/08/tesla-model-s-crash-investigation-drunken-driving-indianapolis/97597708/ show that the Tesla has completely disintegrated and that ALL of the wheels have snapped off with some of the wheels showing signs of damage whilst rotating. Bearing in mind the many reports of failed Tesla suspensions and problems with speed control it is possible that mechanical failure paid a contributing part. The almost complete disintegration of the car is in stark contrast to the claims made by Tesla that it is the safest car in the world. Please do not allow the fact that the occupants might have been impaired by alcohol preclude an investigation into possible defects in the Tesla that may have played a part in this crash.
Files you uploaded.
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When did this happen? 11/08/2016
Was there a Crash? Yes
Was there a Police Report? Yes
Were Vehicles Towed? Yes
Was there a Fire? Yes
Was there an injury or fatality? Yes
Number of fatalities: 2
Number of injuries
Medical Attention Required? Yes
How fast were you going? (in mph) 60


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Complaint Number: 10953731
Vehicle Identification Number: 5YJSA1DP1DFP13094
Your Vehicle’s Make Model and Model Year: TESLA MODEL S 2013
Note: Your VIN, make, model, and year are all protected under the Privacy Act.
What part of your car was affected? Suspension
What happened?
Here is a Tesla in the junkyard. https://m.iaai.com/VehicleDetEnc.aspx?AuctionID=0&ItemID=19172289&RowID=52&PageSource=VehicleResults# The rear LH suspension has been completely ripped off. The air-bags have not deployed and there is no impact damage that would have caused the suspension to have been ripped off. These suspension breakages are happening repeatedly. It is quite obvious that the alloy parts are too fragile for a car of this weight and power. Please investigate this problem before more lives are lost. Please note that I am not the owner but a concerned citizen. The date of the accident is an approximation.
Files you uploaded.
2013Wheelfallenoff.jpg
When did this happen? 01/01/2017
Was there a Crash? No
Was there a Fire? No
Was there an injury or fatality? No
How fast were you going? (in mph) 30
About how many miles were on your vehicle at the time of the incident? 20000


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Complaint Number: 10953739
Vehicle Identification Number: 5YJSA1H21EFP66037
Your Vehicle’s Make Model and Model Year: TESLA MODEL S 2014
Note: Your VIN, make, model, and year are all protected under the Privacy Act.
What part of your car was affected? Suspension
What happened?
Here is a Tesla in the junkyard. https://www.copart.com/lot/19207737/Photos It has not been involved in a collision but it is an insurance write off due to undercarriage damage. The Suspension has collapsed on all four wheels and some body damage has been caused by the wheels jamming up inside the wheel wells. Please investigate this problem.
Files you uploaded.
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When did this happen? 01/01/2017
Was there a Crash? No
Was there a Fire? No
Was there an injury or fatality? No
How fast were you going? (in mph) 30
About how many miles were on your vehicle at the time of the incident? 1100