So how many Teslas have caught fire so far?


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Another one, in Switzerland:

Strangely, the police are currently refusing to blame a battery fire, yet the entire car has melted.

As Lithium ion batteries burn at between 750 & 900C, and aluminium melts at around 600C, I can see no alternative for the damage shown.

Maybe it’s a legal matter, not wanting to prejudice future criminal prosecution?


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Tesla fires are far more severe, hazardous and complex to deal with than ordinary car fires:

https://www.firechief.com/2016/12/13/how-to-fight-a-burning-tesla/

Yeah, they’re pretty much deathtraps.

Edit to include: Tesla claim to have fitted a titanium cover encasing the battery pack in order to protect it from puncture. However, titanium is both very expensive and difficult to machine - we have already seen that Tesla use inferior quality aluminium castings on their suspension components in order to scrimp a few bucks, so why should we take their word that they are using good quality titanium as well?

If they’re even using titanium at all.

Titanium melts at above 1600C, so should survive a lithium battery fire at 950C - if we see no evidence of these titanium covers surviving the fires we will know they are defective…

This is what it has come to with Musk and his horrid cars - nothing about them, or his claims for them, is believeable on face value, so we are forced to examine the absolute worst case scenario every time.

Why is he not in jail?


#25

The Titanium pantie shield weighs about 8 ounces and is held on with a dozen #2 pan-head screws.
It is a joke.


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I got the impression the whole clamshell was made of titanium, but seems it’s all smoke and mirrors as usual.

To be honest I gave up reading your link when it mentioned “ballistic aluminium”, as no such material exists - it’s just a nonsense made-up buzz phrase.

The gif of the concrete block hitting the shield is misleading too - it’s clearly made of aerated block, which are so light and weak you can cut em with a saw. They’re used for internal, non load-bearing partition walls.

So yeah, just more musk fraud…

Why is he not in jail?


#27

More fire:

Seems that “ballistic aluminium and tianium clamshell” don’t work so well after all…


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Indeed :slight_smile:


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There was no crash and at this time there is no known foreign object damage. So at this time it seems the so-called “armor” was not a factor in preventing the fire.

I suspect this incident is a manufacturing and quality control problem regarding the battery. Tesla also hyped the ability to detect and warn of battery faults, before a failure and/or to give the driver and other occupants warning to evacuate the vehicle. Reportedly at least one other driver flagged the driver of the Tesla down, because the Tesla driver was unaware that his vehicle was on fire.

Again this shows a Tesla hype problem.

Again this seems to show that Tesla has manufacturing and/or quality control issues.

Again this seems to show that Tesla’s detection and alert system is not all it is hyped up to be. It’s less capable and less effective then presented.